I found the crackiest of crack pipes.

"Dsscats" (dsscats) 08/07/2014 at 01:44 • Filed to: None

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I'm in kind of a crappy mood tonight, so I'll take it out on cars instead of people. Prepare for a huge dump of terrible prices.

What is this, Fast and Furious? These aren't worth Supra money!

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$100k can buy you a VERY VERY nice C7

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/460700…

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Wait wait wait, $80k for a Continental and it isn't even a 65?

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$50k can get you a lot more than an early C5 now a days. Like a C6Z or something with an interior better than one created by Fischer Price

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I'm calling on Bandit for the final judgement on this one, but SILVER SEATS!!!!!!

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From what I can gather from this one, he has an actual 800-900HP car in the us, supposedly "fully legal," but it's been crashed, but he has the parts to repair it, but he can't be bothered. Wut.

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That;s a lot of money for an RX7 with only 400HP. You can get a lot more power and reliability and luxury for the money.

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Sorry, $35k for a car that needs a new paint job? And there were a hell of a lot more than 300 2wd blazers made.

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Apparently, these are Silvestro bait, but for $35k, you can get a hell of a lot of V10 E60

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No. Just no. It even still has the ugly US spec bumpers. At $32k. Most in this condition (With a bit higher miles, to be fair) go for about $10k.

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So you're asking $30k for a car, but you can't be bothered to wash it or pump the tires up?

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Do these go for that much?

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Thats quite a lot.

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I can understand early 911s going for this much, but this is a 912. Maybe K-Roll can give me a bit more insight into this pricing.

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This is one of those replicas that makes you wonder if they've ever actually seen a picture of the real thing.

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$30k for a C4? Maybe someone will....no. Just no.

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That's a nice Fox, and those are some very low miles, but cars are meant to be enjoyed and you can get a 2015 Ecoboost for that money.

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180k miles is...a lot, even if a lot has been replaced.

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$27k for a C4 and it's an auto......

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A high mileage, non-turbo Supra. I've seen a damn near identical car (albeit grey) go for $16k

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This is one of those times where you just aren't going to get what you put into it.

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$25 grand for an 80s truck that can't even be smogged? I'll pass......

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$25k for a TPI C4 with a terrible body kit. (Yes, it's TPI. Look at the interior and description on the side.)

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Again, you aren't getting what you put in and you didn't even bother putting more than 1 picture in a listing for a $20k car!

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I love in the ad how he says " H2s were't around then." Well they are now, and they're a hell of a lot cheaper than some custom Cherokee with build quality which is anyone's guess. Can't he at least repair the driver's seat?

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He's asking $25k for a basic R34, and I happen to know that this car isn't legal either.

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A high mileage, NA, auto Supra for $25k?! Is he out of his mind?

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$25k for a not-near-finished Countach replica.

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These picturies have GOT to be from 1998. Where the car obviously came from, with those modifications. And where it should have stayed.

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Another high mileage, NA Auto Supra.

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Another car that I happen to know is not legal

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For $22k, this whole thing had better be a 10/10

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Whoa...

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This dude has the audacity to call a 130k mile car "brand new"

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Why not W220?

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He calls it a 700HP car, but it's only pushing 450...

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Just look at it.

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This had better have an LS for $20k. Hint: It doesn't

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He spent $12k on his interior, but couldn't get rid of the US spec bumpers?

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Nope. No touch with reality.

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You are NOT getting what you invested.

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Can't you get a newer generation for that money?

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He just sort of slips in the phrase "Transmission could use a rebuild". That car is a beater for show car money.

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I'm guessing this poor gentleman wasn't blessed with the gift of sight.

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Just no.

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He says it's cheaper than an M5 to maintain, but an M5's cheaper.

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This ain't no Supra!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 01:59

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If it's real and not a scam, the 2dr. Blazer w/Duramax isn't as CPy as you'd think, IF and only IF it was done right. Not in the same price spectrum, but I found this crap pipe with in 75 miles of this decent priced 944.

The world's roughest "58k" miles, bullshit. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-94…

Or a realistic 52k miles. http://pensacola.craigslist.org/ctd/4571212439…

GhostZ > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:00

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I have invested over $50k in aftermarket parts and modifications into this car.

I'm shocked that the 3000GT even has 50k worth of aftermarket upgrades you can buy.

The R33 motor, if it is what he claimed, is actually incredibly rare and worth a ton. However, given that it's so modified there's barely any way to tell that it started life as an N1 block (which were super-rare strengthened versions of the standard RB block) it's extremely sketchy. But since he only provides pictures of the GTS front clip (not of the actual GT-R itself) I bet it's not a legal GT-R at all, much less an N1.

$5 says the RX-7 had some catastrophic failure and they're trying to offload it.

The rest just made me depressed. Some of these are legitimately good cars but just being sold at 2x their fair price.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:01

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My distant cousin is trying to sell his 1989 100% US Spec MB SL coupe in the same color as the one there. I guarantee he wants 30k for it, And I know its worth like 9k. That being said I'd give him 6k for it, Its been for sale for at least 5 years

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:03

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On that 912...

HELL THE FUCK NO! CP CP CP CP!!!!

No way in hell the 912 is the "Unicorn". Not even close. That body looks clean as hell though. If that was a '65 911 it'd be a steal even if you had to put it back together; especially as early cars are going for up to $100k+ nowadays.

You can find decent 912s for well under $15k. The fact that this one needs to be out back together, $8k and all the time and effort to get it road-worthy. That is the crackiest of Porsche crack pipes I've seen in a long time...

I'll give it the fact that it looks clean though, but that's it.

AddMustard > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:04

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That porsche really is crackpipe material. Those Supras, I suppose I can't say much - someone will pay it. They've always been expensive cars and they're only getting rarer.

I started to say that Countach was terrible but....no way, that thing is legit. I like kit cars and replica cars, the Countach is my childhood dream car (along with the Jaguar XJ220 and Mclaren F1) and that thing is looking sweet. It's rear-engined and, I am not sure, but does it have a legit Lamborghini Countach shell on it? Is there more info on it anywhere?

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/07/2014 at 02:05

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Exactly. I say $35k COMPLETE.

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/07/2014 at 02:06

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Oh, and happy birt day!

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:08

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Its Kroll's Birthday? Happy Bday Kroll!

Dsscats > AddMustard 08/07/2014 at 02:08

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The Supras can be found much cheaper other places. Also, it would be sweet and $70k material for sure IF it was finished. And not legit shell.

Dsscats > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 08/07/2014 at 02:09

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Exactly. How many miles?

Dsscats > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 08/07/2014 at 02:11

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Yesterday, I believe.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:16

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I have no Idea, all I know is its straight and is 99% rust free

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:16

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Not even! That's 993, 964, pristine never driven 3.2 Carrera and maybe even high mileage 930 Turbo money at that point!! -_-

$15k for the lot, $18k complete; take it or leave it.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Denver Is Stuck In The 90s 08/07/2014 at 02:17

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'Twas yesterday and thank you! :)

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:18

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The only problem with me buying it is hes family, so he knows the same haggling tricks that I do. (My family used to be a family of pawn brokers, different family members used to have their own pawnshops up and down broadway in downtown denver)

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/07/2014 at 02:19

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So youre Niiinteeeen now?

Dsscats > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 08/07/2014 at 02:23

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$35k does get you a lot of Porsche.....

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/459779…

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/460627…

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/459804…

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/460473… -Holy god those RIMMMZZZ are unfortunate

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/cto/460186…

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/460039…

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:25

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I'd only want 2 or 4...

Kanaric > GhostZ 08/07/2014 at 02:56

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You are wrong about the GTR clip, it's neither rare or worth a ton.

Here's GTR production numbers:

R32 GTR - 43,934

R33 GTR - 16,422

R34 GTR - 11,310

http://www.jrautoparts.com/clip_nissan_RB…

Here is one for $4500. He probably accidentally put an extra 0 on the end.

Heres the RB26 + trans for $2600

http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/nissan-infinit…

Kanaric > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 02:58

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LMFAO $30k 3000GT? LMFAO WOW that is a gem

Wow what's with 3000gt owners? They don't know their cars are worthless?

that $23k non-turbo auto supra is pretty damn funny as well. Lots of gems in this list.

GhostZ > Kanaric 08/07/2014 at 03:02

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That R33 is nothing like the one that he's claiming he has, which is an N1 R33. Of course that one is going to considerably cheaper.

The N1 blocks were motorsport blocks that were put into special editions of the R32, R33, and the R34 V-Spec Nur, with only a few thousand of each kind made. They have a ton of improvements and advantages over a normal R33 motor, and to someone wanting to seriously crank out reliable power they are actually quite reliable.

However, I suspect it's not a real N1 motor. If it was though, it's not as CP as it may seem, but he's not showing any pictures of the actual car itself, just the engine bay. The front clip is something he's providing in addition to the car, I believe, to help fix the body damage that the one with the N1 motor has, I believe.

Kanaric > GhostZ 08/07/2014 at 03:04

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OIC Didn't see his claiming it was a special block.

GhostZ > Kanaric 08/07/2014 at 03:10

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Yeah, the N1 blocks are coveted because while you can take almost any RB26 to 650+ HP, they are the only ones who will still run reliably at that level, and they are the only factory block that's safe to crack quadruple digits without extensive modifications to the whole thing.

I bet there's under 1000 true N1 motors across the entire R32-R34 range. It had significantly improved cylinder strength and cooling, so it could take far more of a beating.

Kanaric > GhostZ 08/07/2014 at 03:16

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It looks like he did a full build on this block as well. I find it hard to believe though such a thing would cost $45k but maybe that was his cost to acquire the block + to do the build. If that is indeed his front clip he could of had the engine built and put into one of those Motrex GTS-25T R33s since they cost so much money that would explain why he spent so much on a car that would cost like $6-8k in other countries.

If it were me I would of just built a RB 25 or 26/30, lol. Though I don't know if the RB30 bottom is as stout.

Kanaric > GhostZ 08/07/2014 at 03:19

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looking at it again, that front clip has to be the wrong picture uploaded. The engine bay pics are completely different. This $45k is probably a complete car.

GhostZ > Kanaric 08/07/2014 at 03:50

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RB30s are slightly weaker than RB25s, which are significantly weaker than RB26s, which are noticeably weaker than RB26 N1s. Additionally, the newer the block, generally the stronger they are (a 2002 RB25 might be better than a 1989 RB26 in certain ways). It's important to note that the RB30s came at 150-200 HP from the factory, the RB25s were around 300HP under boost, whereas the RB26 were at actually closer to 450-500HP and were highly underrated.

Of course, this is just general info. "Strength" depends on the alloy used and cylinder wall size (which both got WAY better in the mid-90s) and the power potential also includes cooling systems (which is one of the huge advantages of the RB26).

It sounds to me that he imported a legal Skyline a while ago, spent tons on fixing it, and when he damaged the front end recklessly his insurance wouldn't cover it because of some gray import problem (that or it was legally registered, but not insured! a huge red flag). Any number of reasons could be the case, seems sketchy to me either way.

KnotThatBusy > Dsscats 08/07/2014 at 09:30

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"Showroom classic"

-Exterior I would rate it 9 out of 10; original gorgeous paint; no rust; never been in an accident; a few small parking lot dings and some areas where some vandals have keyed the car. I've refilled the scratches with paint. Now it is ready for wet sanding and nice hand wax.

No.

mcbenz > GhostZ 08/07/2014 at 15:30

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LOL, just to be a troll I sent him an e-mail saying your car's worth like $7K if you can even get that much. Aftermarket parts doesn't always equate to increase resale value.

GhostZ > mcbenz 08/08/2014 at 02:22

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In some cases, it does, but not here. Aftermarket parts only work for cars that are collectible solely because the aftermarket, a la AE86, 240SX, and older Civics, and only if it's done very very well.

Kanaric > GhostZ 08/10/2014 at 16:48

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That is interesting. I always see RB25 or 26/30s on australian sites making huge power, with forged internals obviously, and some people still do RB26 strokers despite it costing more so I guess that would explain why.

GhostZ > Kanaric 08/10/2014 at 16:49

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If you're going for extreme power, usually the RB26's higher initial cost is made back up with not needing as much reinforcement or aggressive cooling, but not always, and it's becoming less and less common to start with an RB26 than an RB25 as the price gap widens.